In this episode we continue our discussion of the Doctrines of Grace (also known as Calvinism) by exploring the doctrine of Limited Atonement. I recommend listening to the previous episodes in this series if you have not yet done so.
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I also made mention of John Owen's formulation on Limited Atonement. Here is the layout of that argument:
The Father imposed His wrath due unto, and the Son underwent punishment for, either:
- All the sins of all men.
- All the sins of some men, or
- Some of the sins of all men.
In which case it may be said:
- That if the last be true, all men have some sins to answer for, and so, none are saved.
- That if the second be true, then Christ, in their stead suffered for all the sins of all the elect in the whole world, and this is the truth.
- But if the first be the case, why are not all men free from the punishment due unto their sins?
You answer, "Because of unbelief."
I ask, Is this unbelief a sin, or is it not? If it be, then Christ suffered the punishment due unto it, or He did not. If He did, why must that hinder them more than their other sins for which He died? If He did not, He did not die for all their sins!"
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Could you explain justification through blood? How does it work?
ReplyDeleteDoes someone else die for those who don't believe?
Ok, I'll bite. 1. A conditional gospel, which seems to be what you proclaim is not the gospel. Therefore your entire argument fails. 2. The fact one must explain away numerous passages to conform them to a preconceived theory should trouble you. 3. The original Reformers never held this false doctrine and the Formula of Concord flatly rejects it.
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